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  "Present Understanding"

  by TweetieBird in

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  for those of you that have been away from the borg for a while, there is a new catch phrase that has been popping up in the meetings, assembly talks, co's talks, etc.

  it seems to me that i started hearing this term shortly after the "generation" explanation fiasco.. of course, i am referring to the term, "present understanding" or "current understanding.".

  i always thought it was amusing, even when i was believing the bs, but now i find it puzzling that so many are gullible to this new phrase.

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  Tweety:

  Very insightful of you to pick up on the societies use of the adjectives "present" and "current" when defining truth. Websters defines "truth" as . . . "fact or actuality", "the real state of affairs: fact." As opposed to the definition for "theory" which Websters defines as . . ."hypothesis. . .an assumption or guess".

  Now, beliefs change, hypothesis change, assumptions change. But facts don't change. So to be more accurate in what they tell their mind-numbed adherants, they really should use the expression "present theory and current theory". Of course doing so puts them on the same plane as evolutionists. I mean no disrespect to Charles Darwin here.
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  Marking brothers and sisters

  by jurs in

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  a few weeks ago in the chat room, i learned that jw's didn't always mark their brothers and sisters.

  i was baptized in 1994 and i believe that "marking" was done as early as that.

  was this "marking" new light ?

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  I always thought it would be fun to literally mark someone with a magic marker. Of course a "magic" marker would in and of itself be un-Christian wouldn't it?
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  Confessing to elders..Scriptural??

  by nytelecom1 in

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  is it?...regarding the verse in james i think..where it speaks about.

  going to the older men of the congergation for "healing".

  just wondering what opinions are out there regarding this.

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  Confessing ones sins to an elder or group of elders is really the same as confessing ones sins to the elder's wives and all of her (their) friends. From experience I know this to be the case. Some elders probably do maintain confidentiality, but far too many do not. Therefore, perhaps the best way to confess is during your part of the service meeting, just blurt out your sins for all to hear. It will reduce the excruciating boredom of the meeting.

  EXAMPLE: (Two Sisters doing a demonstration) "So you see sister Jones, we really do want to stress the nearness of the end with our studies, and oh by the way, I've been giving brother Jones regular blow jobs at the Motel 6 for over a year now."
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  Change in WTS doctrine under way!

  by biblexaminer in

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  i posted a discussion on the bible research page with the same subject name.

  it involves the 'quiet' new doctrine of the co, and i am sure he's not alone.

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  Ozzie:

  Excellent point. When you can attend a Baptist or Presbyterian church for one hour on Sunday morning and have no door to door work, then why would you want to attend a more mainstream JW Kingdom Hall with whackos?
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  Does Anyone Else Remember

  by drahcir yarrum in

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  it's been a long, long time ago, but i remember as a youngster attending the meetings and there was a huge bulletin board next to the platform and every month they would post the field service statistics on it, i.e.

  hours, return visits (back calls), mags, books, etc.. i was wondering if this was common practice in all kingdom halls back in the 50's and 60's and if so, when did the practice end?

  given nathan knorr's interest in marketing the jw teachings and putting a guilt trip on those who didn't perform up to snuff this recollection makes sense.

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  ChuckD:

  Oh yes, I remember! Similar to the issue of not using the term "luck". "Fortunate" was somehow considered acceptable where no other word would do, but "luck" was S.O.L. as it were.

  My how the world has fallen into "Societythink" when it comes to the use of certain words.
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  Never Hire A Jehovah's Witness!

  by Kent in

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  if you are an employer, never hire a jehovah's witness.

  the reason for this is simple: that mistake may cost you a lot of money!

  you can bot expect a jehovah's witness to do what they are told to do, but you can expect them to do the oposite!

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  Years ago, the society put forth the rules of employment and among other things they included: NOT working for any church or faith based company. Even being a janitor for them. NOT working for any company that distributes cigarettes. NOT working for company that works directly with defense contractors or the military (blood guilt you know).

  So, wouldn't an obedient, dutiful JW be required to perform due diligence about the company they are applying to work for? Isn't Jehovah putting the onus on the JW and not the worldly employer whom he is going to destroy soon anyway?
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  Witnesses admit to counting time on-line ...

  by dedalus in

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  i wonder how much of a trend this is, and what it means for the watchtower publishing empire.

  hours up, placements down .... http://www.greatcrowd.com/159ubb/forum1/html/000234.html.

  dedalus

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  When does one start their time online? At the time of bootup, or in the case of cable modem users, can they count their time 24-7? I think there is certainly room for fraud here. Just like other JW issues.

  How about return visits? Why not?

  You know, Jehovah must have certainly communicated his rules on this to the GB by now.
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  Does Anyone Else Remember

  by drahcir yarrum in

  1. jw
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  it's been a long, long time ago, but i remember as a youngster attending the meetings and there was a huge bulletin board next to the platform and every month they would post the field service statistics on it, i.e.

  hours, return visits (back calls), mags, books, etc.. i was wondering if this was common practice in all kingdom halls back in the 50's and 60's and if so, when did the practice end?

  given nathan knorr's interest in marketing the jw teachings and putting a guilt trip on those who didn't perform up to snuff this recollection makes sense.

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  drahcir yarrum

  It's been a long, long time ago, but I remember as a youngster attending the meetings and there was a huge bulletin board next to the platform and every month they would post the field service statistics on it, i.e. hours, return visits (back calls), mags, books, etc.

  I was wondering if this was common practice in all Kingdom Halls back in the 50's and 60's and if so, when did the practice end? Given Nathan Knorr's interest in marketing the JW teachings and putting a guilt trip on those who didn't perform up to snuff this recollection makes sense. It reminds me in retrospect of sales meetings and monthly sales reports.
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  Never Hire A Jehovah's Witness!

  by Kent in

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  2. friends

  if you are an employer, never hire a jehovah's witness.

  the reason for this is simple: that mistake may cost you a lot of money!

  you can bot expect a jehovah's witness to do what they are told to do, but you can expect them to do the oposite!

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  I would hire a Witness as janitor. That's comparable to hiring a Mexican migrant worker to pick oranges. You must hire the best person for the job.
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  U can leave the truth but the truth cant leave U

  by skeptical 1 in

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  forgive my brutal honesty but thats my take on this site so far.

  thats not to say that it serves no useful purpose.

  but it does seem that many of you are totally consumed with proving to yourself and others that jw's don't have the truth.

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  drahcir yarrum

  The Watchtower organization itself has proven that it is not the purveyor of truth. It is condemned by it's own writings and publications. It has a written record of lies, false prophecies and teaching changes that shift direction like the wind.

  Most of us "exJW's" here are puzzeled that we were fooled for as long as we were by the brute force of the societies groupthink.

  Yesterday, someone who posted here advised a newly excommunicated person posting here to, cheer up, there is a wonderful big world out there waiting for you. (or something close to those words) How true that is. There exists an untapped universe of thoughts, philosophies and ideas outside of the organization that will enrich and provide growth to those fortunate enough to throw off the mental chains of the Watchtower Society.

  I sincerely hope that you too can experience that breathtaking freedom of thought and action.